@FallenAquila You can choose between having cheap almost free current care, and slow the advancement of medical science down to a trickle, or you can have high costs and high research. Even the French system is hurt cost wise with a 14billion deficit in it’s program, so to make it work properly, it can not be as cheap as an average of ~3K a person (compared to our ~8K something average)
where do you fund it? Taxes? First off then you need new infrastructure, which slows down WHEN programs will get funding (many find researchers private sector funding easier and more reliable then our government), and then how much? Tax too much and you starve the economy, tax too little and then there is not enough funding going around when their may be. One of the great things about the business run sector, is it naturally balances out to the maximum
@hughes7520 the largest problem with most government health care systems is the profit margin. The united states still leads in the most money allocated towards medical research out of any industrialized nation. While I think thr french system has implemented the use of current technology in an effective plan (which is a lot coming from me a libertarian who’d rather government stay out of peoples lives) the question remains
@jtrenoweth Same deal here in the UK. I have free national health care but i also buy private health care, not because the free health care isn’t good enough, it’s because i have a medical condition that needs constant check ups and i can afford to not tax the free health care system.
”i live in Ottawa and everywhere i freaking go i see a apple tree center with good waiting lines ”
Not sure if ur being sarcastic, but in any big city such as DC, homeless flock to the hospitals. They get there at 9pm. Say they have a hang nail or something. Get seen around 3am. & get thrown out around 5am!
Thus, they have an entire night of warm shelter, rest rooms, TV, etc. for free b/c it takes that long to get seen in city hospitals!!
You can plan to buy a car or a house: it’s your own responsibility and your money allocation–but you can’t plan a medical affliction. Not the same.”
Thats a good point, I hadn’t thought of that”
@hopes26 Well, yea, because its cancer. You could easily make the same the same argument with eating fast food, eating food with alot of preservatives, or drinking. In fact, I could make the argument that getting behind the wheel of a car puts you in risk of getting into an accident, happens to thousands everyday. But not everyone that smokes gets cancer, not everyone that drives gets in an accident. Regardless none of that should exclude you from having access to healthcare
Well, good point but can easily be defeated. How about the smoking people? almost all of them know in advance that smoking causes lung cancer. Would you treat them for free if they have this disease?
If we eliminate insurance companies from health care prices will GO WAY DOWN and we can offer a non profit pool for all Americans to be a part of ….. THEN no one is turned away and doctors and hospitals can get paid well but get paid a fair amount….. END OF STORY…..
Big difference….. Getting sick is not achieving shelter…. or providing yourself with transportation…. WHEN you get sick you simply want to get better so you can be productive again….. So I ask the question…. WHY is getting sick so expensive? Why should a surgery and a night in the hospital cost 100,000 dollars ?… WHY are insurance companies involved in health care when there first priority is avoiding sick people ? Eliminate insurance companies from health care!!!
@123zero123abc123 hmmmm….isn’t that where all our politicians are? You may have been lucky but that doesn’t negate the facts as I have stated them. Read any Canadian newspaper. . . there is lots of reporting on the massive problems we have not to mention how we’re going to service an aging population.
@diamondknife ye nice lie i live in Ottawa and everywhere i freaking go i see a apple tree center with good waiting lines Canada has one of the best health care services
this is just silly the frist option is the best by far it alows for every one to get health care while if the stckure it like germany it also allows for pritive insureance… it creates a stafty net… so if the rich man whos comperany just let him go and his kids get sick he can still get health care…
I’m in Canada and every year the government reduces health services while expanding costs. In Ontario, we get “free” healthcare as long as we pay an 800.00 annual fee on top of all the taxes we pay. There are towns all over Canada that don’t have doctors, hospitals are closing and consolidating, minor services are being dropped, some emergency wards in Toronto have 1 doctor on the late shift, because the government can’t afford it. The rich go to the US. This is the model you want????
Why are you Americans so scared of having your own NHS (free health care)? Or is that just the upper/middle class complaining I am seeing on T.V. who would rather look after themselves and pay for themselves?
“It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it.”
Thomas Sowell
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@FallenAquila You can choose between having cheap almost free current care, and slow the advancement of medical science down to a trickle, or you can have high costs and high research. Even the French system is hurt cost wise with a 14billion deficit in it’s program, so to make it work properly, it can not be as cheap as an average of ~3K a person (compared to our ~8K something average)
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where do you fund it? Taxes? First off then you need new infrastructure, which slows down WHEN programs will get funding (many find researchers private sector funding easier and more reliable then our government), and then how much? Tax too much and you starve the economy, tax too little and then there is not enough funding going around when their may be. One of the great things about the business run sector, is it naturally balances out to the maximum
What is the Best Healthcare Option?
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@hughes7520 the largest problem with most government health care systems is the profit margin. The united states still leads in the most money allocated towards medical research out of any industrialized nation. While I think thr french system has implemented the use of current technology in an effective plan (which is a lot coming from me a libertarian who’d rather government stay out of peoples lives) the question remains
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@jtrenoweth Same deal here in the UK. I have free national health care but i also buy private health care, not because the free health care isn’t good enough, it’s because i have a medical condition that needs constant check ups and i can afford to not tax the free health care system.
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in Australia as a person you get health care and the government still has private healthcare but everyone gets public
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@123zero123abc123
”i live in Ottawa and everywhere i freaking go i see a apple tree center with good waiting lines ”
Not sure if ur being sarcastic, but in any big city such as DC, homeless flock to the hospitals. They get there at 9pm. Say they have a hang nail or something. Get seen around 3am. & get thrown out around 5am!
Thus, they have an entire night of warm shelter, rest rooms, TV, etc. for free b/c it takes that long to get seen in city hospitals!!
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Not sure who the 25 inhumane morons who r 4 the evil ins. companies getting as rich as possible on the illness of humans, but l am totally for either:
1. Govt run health care.
or
2. The public option. If one exists, I’d definitely choose the public option!!
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@zzyzx0788
You can plan to buy a car or a house: it’s your own responsibility and your money allocation–but you can’t plan a medical affliction. Not the same.”
Thats a good point, I hadn’t thought of that”
That’s actually common sense!
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@hopes26 Well, yea, because its cancer. You could easily make the same the same argument with eating fast food, eating food with alot of preservatives, or drinking. In fact, I could make the argument that getting behind the wheel of a car puts you in risk of getting into an accident, happens to thousands everyday. But not everyone that smokes gets cancer, not everyone that drives gets in an accident. Regardless none of that should exclude you from having access to healthcare
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@zzyzx0788
Well, good point but can easily be defeated. How about the smoking people? almost all of them know in advance that smoking causes lung cancer. Would you treat them for free if they have this disease?
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@funkyflights Um..yea, Im not disagreeing with you
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If we eliminate insurance companies from health care prices will GO WAY DOWN and we can offer a non profit pool for all Americans to be a part of ….. THEN no one is turned away and doctors and hospitals can get paid well but get paid a fair amount….. END OF STORY…..
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@zzyzx0788
Big difference….. Getting sick is not achieving shelter…. or providing yourself with transportation…. WHEN you get sick you simply want to get better so you can be productive again….. So I ask the question…. WHY is getting sick so expensive? Why should a surgery and a night in the hospital cost 100,000 dollars ?… WHY are insurance companies involved in health care when there first priority is avoiding sick people ? Eliminate insurance companies from health care!!!
What is the Best Healthcare Option?
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@123zero123abc123 hmmmm….isn’t that where all our politicians are? You may have been lucky but that doesn’t negate the facts as I have stated them. Read any Canadian newspaper. . . there is lots of reporting on the massive problems we have not to mention how we’re going to service an aging population.
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@diamondknife ye nice lie i live in Ottawa and everywhere i freaking go i see a apple tree center with good waiting lines Canada has one of the best health care services
Now Look Here! – Vision Care
this is just silly the frist option is the best by far it alows for every one to get health care while if the stckure it like germany it also allows for pritive insureance… it creates a stafty net… so if the rich man whos comperany just let him go and his kids get sick he can still get health care…
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I’m in Canada and every year the government reduces health services while expanding costs. In Ontario, we get “free” healthcare as long as we pay an 800.00 annual fee on top of all the taxes we pay. There are towns all over Canada that don’t have doctors, hospitals are closing and consolidating, minor services are being dropped, some emergency wards in Toronto have 1 doctor on the late shift, because the government can’t afford it. The rich go to the US. This is the model you want????
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@gipcambero
Yeah but we don’t want America to have a deficit, as you know Reagan, Bush and Bush all ran balanced budgets.
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Why are you Americans so scared of having your own NHS (free health care)? Or is that just the upper/middle class complaining I am seeing on T.V. who would rather look after themselves and pay for themselves?
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if you take away violence, car crashes, and obesity, we live longer
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everyone can afford it.
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“It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it.”
Thomas Sowell
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@wanderingdesolate
“running a deficit like france does ”
France is rated AAA unlike so many country in the World
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